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Are you the next great climate scientist? Awarding $10,000 for the proven reproducible rate of CO2 forcing. (Verified by the UN IPCC)

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Atmosphere Questions

These are all the questions I found related to this topic in the 3000+ pages of IPCC AR4 and AR5.

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One of the most important areas of question is if the clouds and/or water vapor are a negative or positive feedback overall. In other words, do they warm or cool the earth?

In AR4 (2007) the IPCC stated that “much research” is currently being done “to understand how clouds change in response to climate warming, and how these changes affect climate through various feedback mechanisms”. (AR4 FAQ 1.3 Page 115). 

This research continues in AR5 as it dedicates chapter 7 to clouds and aerosols to the fact there exist the “largest uncertainty to estimates and interpretations of the Earth’s changing energy budget”. (AR5 Chapter 7 Executive Summary Page 573) 

Their research in AR5 focuses on the fact clouds and water vapor can be both a positive and a negative feedback.

So, how can clouds both cool or warm the earth? The IPCC notes there are many reasons why depending on many characteristics like different cloud altitudes, water content, size, shape, and more. (AR4 FAQ 1.3 Page 115)

The IPCC tells us in AR5 of these the biggest question is the effect of “warming on low clouds”. (AR5 Section 7.2.5.4 Page 590)

The IPCC notes it has been suggested a negative feedback forms when there is more moisture in the atmosphere resulting in the creation of even more clouds, giving us cooler and cooler temperatures. (AR5 Section 7.2.5.4 Page 590)

However, the IPCC in AR5 makes an interesting statement pushing the idea clouds are a positive feedback warming the earth more and more. This is a change from AR4 as the IPCC now notes two reasons.

First, they note a couple studies in early 1980s showing clouds were a negative feedback ignored the following argument “the physics of crucial cloud-regulating processes such as precipitation formation and turbulence”. (AR5 Section 7.2.5.4 Page 590) 

On this maybe someone can explain to me the “physics of crucial cloud-regulating processes”? The IPCC does not, and to date I have found no explanation on how this proves a positive feedback. 

Second, they state “Observational evidence discounting a large effect of this kind was reported in AR4”. I am not sure what they mean here because I did not find anything in AR4 regarding this. (AR5 Section 7.2.5.4 Page 590) 

The IPCC explains here they are making improvements with clouds. However, they note “biases in cloud simulation led to regional errors on cloud radiative effect of several tens of watts per square meter.” (AR5 Chapter 9 Executive Summary Page 743) 

However, the IPCC admits they have ‘low confidence remains in the observation of global-scale cloud variability and trends.” (AR5 Section 2.5.6.1 Page 208) 

Seems to me the other stance by the IPCC that clouds and water vapor are the “largest uncertainty to estimates and interpretations of the Earth’s changing energy budget” is a more accurate statement.

All this is an important in other ways because it is believed for every 1°C rise in temperature this will increase moisture by 7% in the atmosphere making even more clouds, causing even more feedback.

Here in AR5 the IPCC states moisture “should go up 7% for every 1°C increase in temperature.” (AR5 Section 2.5.5.3 Page 207)

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So Many Atmosphere Questions.

Next, are all the water vapor questions. 

For example, the IPCC distinguishes between clouds and water vapor as water vapor has the strongest influence on the natural greenhouse effect.

They go on to note water vapor is caused by air temperature not greenhouse gases so “scientists consider it a feedback agent rather than a forcing to climate change”. (AR5 FAQ 8.1 Page 666)

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The Questions Chapter

Questions and more questions.

This section highlights all the important climate questions described in the UN’s IPCC assessment reports, AR4 and AR5. AR6 is coming soon!

AR4 and AR5 make up the most complete and current climate information out there, a road map for future generations. However, they are not the easiest reads because information on any particular subject is found throughout the 3000+ pages of these reports.

You make think over time there would be less questions as the climate gets figured out, but from AR4 to AR5 the number of question and material increased by several fold.

One reason for this increase in climate questions from AR4 to AR5 is the fact many predictions made in AR4 were missed, and things have been learned.

The IPCC examines most of these in more detail throughout AR5 using AR4 as a base for the science.

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My Climate Journey

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Sharing what I have learned in my 35 years of being a “climate activist”. 

Be an informed climate activist or maybe even the next great scientist.

AR4 and AR5 are road maps for the next generation of climate scientists. 

I am awarding $10,000 for the proven rate of CO2 forcing to the next great scientist of our time.

Review of the IPCC AR4 and AR5

Collection of 9200 peer-reviewed climate studies. This is the science with 100s of questions, contradictions, missed predictions, areas lacking data, and more.

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All the Chapters

My Personal Climate Journey.

35 years and counting. You may be on the same journey.

Review of IPCC AR4 and AR5

Why AR4 and AR5 are so important.

Theory Chapter

Breaks down CO2 forcing and why models are important.

Temperature Chapter

What is warming? Entire earth? Oceans? Surface? What to know.

Model Chapter

Why use models? How are they doing?

Ocean Chapter

Role of the world's oceans that stores over 90% of Earth's heat.

Atmosphere Chapter

Is the atmosphere cooling or warming the earth?

Gases Chapter

Focus on CO2 and other greenhouse gases.

Civilization Chapter

Looking at past climate change affect on previous civilizations.

Question Chapter - ON LINE

Summary of every important question I found in AR4/AR5. More than 150 of them.

Prediction Chapter

Summary of every important prediction I found in AR4/AR5.

What is the IPCC?

UN’s IPCC Assessment Reports 4 and 5 (AR4 2007 and AR5 2014). These UN reports include over 600 authors from 32 different countries assessing 9,200 peer-reviewed studies so they are the all-inclusive on the current state of climate science putting out new reports every seven or so years.

AR5 explains the United Nation’s IPCC was created in 1988 to provide world governments with “clear information on the state of today’s climate science as well as potential impacts, and options for adaptation and migration based on regular assessments”. (AR5 Section 1.2.1 page 123)

Weather versus Climate

Is the weather or the climate easier to predict?

Is the climate easier to predict than the weather?
In AR4 2007 the IPCC believed it was easier to predict the climate than the weather because weather is chaotic making it more unpredictable. They even stated that the climate is very different and more manageable even 50 years down the road. They had a strong believe in the models understanding of the climate processes. (AR4 Page 104 FAQ1.2)
However, seven years later the IPCC did a 180 as AR5 change dramatically. For example, now saying “It is not possible to make deterministic, definitive predictions of how climate will evolve over the next century and beyond as it is with short term weather forecasts.’ (AR5 Section 12.1 Page 1034)
Why did this change? What is going on? I thought the climate was all figured out?